19 January 2017
foster home – this is what the system is like
titles and quotes from Norwegian articles are by MHS.
We have here an
article with the information that a man has been sentenced
to 8 months in prison for violence in his child-raising. We
also read that the children have been placed in foster
homes, which means they are not allowed to live with their
mother either. The article says nothing about the future,
but based on experience it must be considered unlikely that
the children are ever allowed to come home to either
Dømt til åtte måneders fengsel for vold
(Sentenced to eight months'
prison for violence to the children)
26 December 2015
dommen har mannen slått og/eller dasket barna på rompa og
andre steder på kroppen, tatt hardt i dem og kløpet dem i
ørene og andre steder på kroppen."
(According to the judgment, the
man has beaten and/or spanked the children on their bottom
and on other parts of their body, has grabbed them hard and
pinched their ears and other body
is important for all parents in Norway to be aware of what
Norway is like. In the above case, the parents have
disagreed over the upbringing of the children and this has
caused a lot of "loud quarreling and disagreement". In
addition, the father has beaten / spanked the children.
Norway, in particular, should be awake to such facts, if
they come from countries where parents are the ones to hold
authority and power over the children. In Norway parents
have no power or right to decide in opposition to what the
state dictates through the child protection authority (CPS)
called Barnevernet, and through the criminal law system.
When it comes to physical punishment of children, there is,
in other words, no question of any discussion one can have
with the police, with Barnevernet or the courts, no matter
for negotiation or philosophising about how one thinks
ought to be or how
ought to be. The issue
in concrete cases concerns how reality actually
is, under the
current law and practice. It is important to take this
reality seriously, in fact not primarily because one risks
a prison sentence if one does not, rather
because one risks the children being robbed of both their
parents and all their extended family, for a long time or
regarding how Norway and Norwegian law ought to be are
important. But such discussions lead nowhere in concrete
cases in which parents stand accused of having treated
their children violently; discussions then are a waste of
time. The law is clear, and so is its interpretation.
Especially many foreigners do not take in properly what law
and practice are actually like, they believe one can
discuss in each case what the law could possibly be like or
how it ought to be interpreted.
Familiefar dømt for å ha dasket barna
father found guilty of having slapped his children)
forvarsel fikk grimstadmannen politiet på døra, anmeldt for
å ha dasket og kløpet barna sine. Nå er han dømt til 30
dagers betinget fengsel.
forewarning the man from Grimstad had the police at his
door. He had been reported to have slapped and pinched his
children. He has now been given a suspended sentence of 30
Sørlandet, 4 November
"Det var i november i fjor at 38-åringen ble pågrepet i
hjemmet sitt og satt på glattcelle, mistenkt for hardhendte
leggerutiner for sine tre barn på fem, seks og ni år.
Mannen var tiltalt for å ha dasket
de to yngste barna på fingrene.
Han var også tiltalt for å ha
dasket barna på kinnet, kløpet dem i låret og for å ha tatt
gripetak rundt munn og kjeve."
(It was in
November of last year that the 38-year-old was apprehended
in his home and placed in a security cell, suspected of
tough routines for putting to bed his three children of
five, six and nine years old.
The man was charged with having slapped
the two younger on their fingers.
He was also
charged with having slapped the children on their cheeks,
pinched them on their thighs, and having grabbed them hard
around mouth and jaw.)
Derfor fikk mannen bare bot for å ha
slått og sparket sønnen (5)
(This is why
the man was only fined for having hit and kicked his son
3 September 2014
"– Det er ikke mange år siden det å gi et dask i
oppdragende henseende ikke var ulovlig. Det virker kanskje
hardere på ordlyden i dommen enn det faktisk var. Hadde
gutten hatt merker og skader hadde det vært noe helt annet.
Grensen er lav for å få fengsel for legemsfornærmelse,
spesielt når volden er utøvet mot barn, sier Darell.
Etter det Altaposten erfarer bor
gutten i dag i fosterhjem."
( – Only
a few years ago, handing out a slap as a means of
correction of children was not illegal. The wording of the
judgment may seem more harsh than it really was. If the boy
had had bruises and injuries, it would have been a
different matter. The threshold is low for being sentenced
to prison for assault, especially when the violence has
been committed against children, says Darell.
From what Altaposten hears, the boy lives
in a foster home today.)
One should take the last sentence seriously!
A fairly common, popular opinion is that parents should
have the right to decide for themselves how their children
are to be brought up, including whether physical punishment
is to be used or not, and with no right for the state to
interfere. In Norway, however,
foster parents are the ones to
be almost immune to sanctions and punishment from the
authorities (in addition to being immune against alert
suspicions on the part of Barnevernet), cf the last
paragraph "The situation
Foster care – which Sweden wanted for
21 February 2014